My head is spinning a little bit. Have any of you ever heard of this guy who launched a business called "MyWikiBiz", where the GFDL content was paid for, but only published to a commercial site. Then, when other Wikipedians in good standing copied it into Wikipedia (with due attribution), Jimmy Wales went ape shit? You can read about MyWikiBiz on Wikipedia. And, you might want to invite JzG and Calton here to comment, because in my experience, it's their way or the highway. Full disclosure. I saw 70-270 Exam this thread on and raised it to Greg's attention. Greg has battled Jimbo on this very issue for a very long time. It's one of the recurring unsettled issues that has long been highlighted on Wikipedia Review. Because it's an unsettled policy in which Jimbo personally interfered (just as he personally interfered with the Ethics Project here), I thought it best that those who are naive on the subject be made aware that this issue has deep and disturbing legs. Thanks for clarifying that. Wikiversity is more akin to Wikibooks on these sorts of issues (many fully-written books have been donated to Wikibooks over the years)... as long as it's quality materials with a compatible license and fit within our scope, the problems 70-284 Exam Thekohser experienced on WP would probably not come up here (assuming of course I understand the problems). In all seriousness, I suppose it is a credible argument to state that something would be acceptable in the Wikiversity environment that might be engaged with hostility on Wikipedia. Another notch in the "win" column for Wikiversity, and one of the reasons I still participate here. It seems to me, the less involvement Jimmy has with a project or enterprise, the more peaceful and successful it has a chance to be. Sponsorship of materials could be regulated. All kinds of abuse is possible, when contents are sponsored. At the moment our community is too small, so we can see the sponsorship of material with money by a university as part of a gentlemen's agreement for the moment. In my opinion, Thekohser's difficulties at Wikipedia are more a function of his personality than of the paid nature of 70-291 Exam his formerly proposed activities there. He often notes that there does exist paid activity at Wikipedia and tries to portray that as inconsistent, when actually what it shows is that it is not simply being paid activity that was (and is) the difficulty with his behavior at Wikipedia. Kind of like how Moulton condemns Wikipedia for being rules based and also for not following its own rules. People who condemn something for both being X and not being X are being emotional and not logical

2 comments
1. Gregory Kohs (anonymous), Nov 3, 2008 9:48:46 PM #
Nice theft of GFDL content from a Wikiversity talk page. You seem to have credited "Knallgrau" and "helma" for this page, when I was the author of a significant portion of it.
Remove this post. You did not properly attribute my creative capital, and therefore you're in violation of its licensing terms.
2. Moulton (anonymous), Nov 4, 2008 1:15:32 AM #
The problem with Wikimedia-sponsored sites is more than just that it's (supposedly) a rule-based enterprise (rather than a more modern and evolved function-based system).
The problem is that the character of Wikimedia's erratic rule-based system is not even as evolved as the Code of Hammurabi, the oldest surviving set of secular laws ever set into stone tablets.
3750 years ago, Hammurabi of Mesopotamia collected 282 laws and committed them to stone tablets. It's instructive to note the first three of Hammurabi's 282 laws:
The second law seems bizarre by modern standards. It appears to be the source of the dismissive phrase, "Go jump in the lake."
But note that the subject of Hammurabi's first three laws deal with the practice of banning and the concept of proof and exculpation. I don't know that I'd credit Hammurabi for having a commendable concept of Due Process, but at least he had the notions of proof and exculpation built into his first three laws.
Compare that to Jimbo's notion of summary banning without so much as a semblance of Due Process. No trial, no examination of the evidence or cross examination of any witnesses. Jimbo's practice is so anachronistic, so tribalistic, that it predates Hammurabi's Code.
About all I can say is that the time has come to tell Jimbo Wales to go jump in the lake.